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| OK, first time posting here but feel compelled...not sure if I am in the right section, so go easy on me...went out with a buddy of mine who had never been salt water fishing here (and who is a marine pilot just stationed in Pcola) to kill kingfish on Tues morning, and had some success...kept two of six caught. We ran in to the beach to anchor out in front of the Dock restaraunt for a burger and beer before heading in....this was about 12 noon. Right on the beach we saw some spanish so we flipped gotchas at em (this is all within the second sandbar...so 100 feet to the beach. We got a few nice spanish and were fixing to anchor when I saw a cobia coming along the first sandbar, right in front of us...I grabbed the spinning rod with the only lure I had on (the silver gotcha with the feather thing on the back) and lobbed it out in front of him. He took it and I set the drag carefully...25 LB Sufix and a 40 LB mono flouro leader made me nervous. I fought while my buddy drove...we chased for a while right on the beach..1 hour 22 minutes later we boat him... I know that people are calling BS on the whole thing...thing is, I don't fish for Cobia, but like any other fisherman, I take my shots where I see em. I have pics and some video of the actual fight (some showing the gotcha in the corner of her mouth) which I will post tonight. The fish weighed 82.5 LBS 2 hours after being put in the box. This was my first time ever casting to a Cobia, and YES I know I got very lucky. Now for the crazy part: I had no scale, but wanted to weigh her bc I knew she was pretty big. A guy down on the beach suggested I weigh her at the peir. I have the # in my phone, so I called to see if that was cool. The fellow on the phone said hell yes, bring her up. Well, before I could, I got a phone call from "Jerry" on the pier, telling me it would be easier to just pull up to the pier so he could lower us a scale...I thought bout it, asked him if it wouldn't piss off the guys fishing up there . He said just come to where he was waving which should not be a problem. I did it...I know ALL THE RULES...I dive, fish from boats and piers/bridges, etc....but the guy said come on so I did....Gimme a ticket if you don't like it, and I'll pay it. Anyway, long and short of it is that after we weighed it, we dropped his scale in the drink, so I owe him a scale .( Jerry is a good guy, he later told me not to worry about the scale....but that is not right. I will be bringing you a new scale Jerry...and thanks for the help). Well, as we were sitting beside the pier, nowhere near anyones fishing line, we start hearing the "regular" cobia fisherman cursing at us, calling us every name you can think of. My buddy asks if they are serious. I say oh yes...I have seen the cobia fishermen on the pier RUN CHILDREN OVER trying to cast to a cobe or a turtle or whatever...broken poles and no apologies, knock a tourist over no apologies...no regard for the basic rules commonplace to any civilized scene . So to hear them cussing us out for catching "THEIR COBIA" was no shock to me. Of course I knew that they are notorious for lobbing jigs at boats. I have never had this to worry about bc I try to respect the pier and their lines and casting requirement (they could need to make a long cast to reach a cruising fish). Also, I think the law also requires 500', or something like that...? Well we did not get hit, but 2 jigs plopped in about 2 feet from the boat, and one line went over, touching my buddy's shoulder. If I could have grabbed it in time, I would have cleated that line and taken off...Well, just for the guys that were throwing on us, we know who you are now. The REGULARS on the pier didn't want to ID you while everybody was around...but you IDIOTS THREW ON MY BOAT WITH 50 PEOPLE WATCHING YOU. My trip to the pier with the deputies right after was not to arrest anyone...it was to figure out who we could talk to about it AFTERWARDS. One more thing, you show up great on video we took of you throwing on us. You are aware that aside from being pointless, stupid and dangerous, it is a FELONY to launch any missile at a boat....you did know that didn't you. What do you expect to achieve? Do you want to injure someone when you do that? You can't expect any good to come from it! Here is the bottom line...you were JEALOUS and PISSED OFF because you think that was your fish. You think I "cut you off". Gimme a break. I don't even have the gear to properly pursue cobia. Quit your crying, because you would have casted to that fish, too. Oh yea, one more thing.. You saw us anchored on the beach right after that. If you were angry and bold enought to throw a jig at us when you were 35 feet in the air and safe, why not come throw it at us from 3 feet away? Maybe bc you would get something thrown back at you? If you threw on my boat, you are a coward. Get a life...I love to fish...been out 5 days straight now, but I know that there are more important things than a damned fish. When you figure that out, you will be all grown up . As for MY cobia, it is delicious. I got some good advice back at Navy Point from REEL TWIZTID and his buddies on how to grill it up. AWESOME TASTING FISH!! Thanks for all the help to those who helped , and screw you to those who hated .
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Ruby Red Lip
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| yessir, thats the way them ol boys are out there on that pier, i've seen em plum knock the tar outta folks to get to casting reach of a fish.mmmmmmmmmmmm, i'd have done the same thing if i would've caught that cobia, some people call em a ling, i call em a cobia. that wasn't right for them to go calling you names either mmmmmmmmmm.they ain't no count. i reckon god wouldn't send nobody like you to hades for what you done, but i reckon hell is chock full of folks that try to cause you harm by intentionly hitting you with a sharpened hook.mmmmmmmmmmmmm. anyway, you got the fish. i'd say you won that deal sure enough. mister, i think that was right nice of that feller for wanting to weigh your fish. it's nice to see folks helping one another out. good luck to ya , names carl.
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| ah yes, the blue center-console incident . I was watching and said to my self " what does he think he's doing ? " I'm amazed you made it out of there unscathed .
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| great story and congrats on the cobe. I can't believe you had the nuts to approach the pier. Next time do yourself a favor and drop by Outcast to weigh it. They wont hurl jigs or insults your way.
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| Sounds like a great fish, Congrats. I'm guessing that this is going to be a very long thread. I would have found a better place to weigh a fish. Personal feelings about the pier... I won't take my six year old son out there (or go myself) because of what I've seen and read. I would like to see some people banned from the pier (by the pier) for their actions and I think the ones that try to hit boats (including boats with women and children) with lead should be charged and arrested. They know if they hit someone in the head with a cobia jig it very well may kill them so what do you charge them with? Attempted murder? I'll bet you wouldn't have to arrest many before the others figured it out. For me the pier is a good thing to look at from a distance but I have no desire to go there anymore.
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I like dem ling with french fried potaters mmmmmmm
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| First, great catch. Second, great story -- at least had a happy ending and no injuries. I've seen it done before and it'll be done again for sure but what gets me is that you were "OKd" to go over there so what's the fuss? I've seen jigs thrown at surfers and boaters and laughed my ass off (only because nobody was hurt) but, yeah, it could get real serious real fast if you hit the boat (or worse a person). If you've got evidence, I'd say take it the Sheriff, screw'em. I'm not a big tattletail but flinging jigs is not something I'd let slide.
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| I beleive in giving the pier guy's there space(and do) and not running up on em. But I'll be DAMNED if someone's gonna bounce a jig off my boat or someone on the boat. It's childish, it's dangerous, and just plain STUPID. Maybe the pier anglers should mount a small weather proof housing / a VHF radio, and an antenna, and pre-worn any one approaching to steer clear. I know better and so do all other locals. But a tourist from outta town drags his boat down for a weekend then gets a 4 oz. jig slung through his console, and god forbid a child is hit in the head with one. I just think that a better way of warning approaching vessels needs to be used by the Anglers on that pier. To many adults fishing there for such an unsafe practice to still be going on. Sorry if I pissed anyone off. (Actually.........no I'm not)
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im not one to throw at boats...but people with boats, is there not enough water for ya? i mean c'mon there is plenty of room to go around the pier and get back on the bar or wherever you are fishing...they aren't trying to hurt someone but they are trying to scare people from doing it again! with that said don't worry about the people cursing you out they are just pissed off that they didn't catch the fish... i think that if anyone comes close enough to get hit with a jig then its mosts likely out of stupidity of the boat driver. i mean we are pier fisherman, most likely one person up there is gonna throw when the chance is given!
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I truly believe that has to fall in the stand your ground law. And if your dumb ass is throwing led at me im throwing led back. but not the type with a hook on it. Think, before you do some stupid shit like that. It really doesnt matter if the boat is to close to the pier its not your pier and the law doesnt apply to the pier. Now by no means do i ever ever go any where near the pier on my boats or on foot and its mainly for these reasons. Too many cool guy assholes.
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at least you use you brain....i agree with vs200 or chicken bone...but there is plenty of water to go around us...
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| The point's getting lost here. He wasn't fishing by the pier, so the pier fishermans water, his water or whoever's water doesn't even come into play. It's another case of someone trying to do something nice for someone by weighing the fish and a handful of idiots trying to be cool. He's a better man than I am because I would left the boat and went up there and had a discussion with some of those idiots. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that all pier fisherman are idiots just the ones that threw at this mans boat. If the shoe fits wear it
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| but then again, it's only the few DUMBASSES (panama city guys, wannabe pier hardasses, and the incredibly stupid) that will ever throw at you to actually hit... Geez.....act your age.....oh you are. : ...and to think I was just getting ready to say how nice and cordial the Pensacola boys were last saturday to us P.C boys.Go figure.
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First off I saw the fish at the ramp and its one hell of a cobe. So nice catch. As I've said before guys in boats have a hell of a lot more places to fish than those guys on the peir so respect them and stay away from the peir. the problem is this guy called the peir and was told not to bring the fish on the peir just pull your boat up and we'll lower the scale down to you. This guy was not fishing around the peir he was doing what he was told and some chicken shit assholes want to throw jigs at him. If you had a problem with what he did take it up with the people that told him to do it. You are a bigger man than he because one of two things would of happened the guys throwing at me would of toated an ass kickin or I would have. The ass clowns throwing at him are just jealous that he caught "their fish". Grow up and get a life.
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VS200B (5/7/2008)
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but then again, it's only the few DUMBASSES (panama city guys, wannabe pier hardasses, and the incredibly stupid) that will ever throw at you to actually hit... Geez.....act your age.....oh you are.: ...and to think I was just getting ready to say how nice and cordial the Pensacola boys were last saturday to us P.C boys.Go figure. sorry ... i did a little stereotyping myself, NOT ALL PANAMA CITY GUYS ARE ASSHOLES!!! JUST 2!!! (you're not one of 'em Seanspots) Right on brother.
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I saw the carcass today and talked to the fisherman,, nice fish,, actually he is a friend of mine. but none the less, He caught the fish and landed it.. they are just jealous.. but the pier rats will catch one tomorrow or the next day and all this will be forgotton. so come on everyone lets have a  and move on the the next subject,, or the next fisherman or boat being thrown at by the pier guys..... and all this will come right back up,,, The never ending story,,,,
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I was on the pier and watched everything. I can assure you that if anyone of the fisherman wanted to hit you they would have, their intent was to let you know that your an idiot, and should not have come up to the pier even if you had permission or not...They only threw at you you after your homeboy dropped the scale in the water...btw Im the one you offered $150 to rat out the people.
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Oh and when you weighed it with the pier scale it was only 71#s i guess it gained weight on the run in.??
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I still don't understand the point was of pulling up to the pier to weigh the fish. Why not avoid the situation and weigh it at the dock?
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Yeah, they could have hit you if they wanted to. Hell, if you're close enough to grab a scale, I could hit you.
Pier guys, if he was called over, OK'd, got clearance or whatever, get over it.
BUT, I'da just gone to the dock and then on to a B&T, way easier that way.
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Freespool (5/7/2008)
Also about people throwing at you how do you know they weren't fishing after all you were right next to a fishing pier. Just what I was going to say. If you pull up close enought to the pier, people don't have to target you, you are in their fishing space. Whether it's someone slinging a gotcha for spanish or someone jigging for pomps, they have to stop fishing if you drive a boat in there.
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And all of this over a fish. Based on his statement it appears that the successful fisherman made a reasonable attempt to do the right thing. He asked and received permission, and don't forget that he is new to the area. He is probably not cognizant of the pier rules whether written or unwritten, he was excited to have just made such a great catch. Congratulations to him.
Let it be.
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| ^I agree with your points, just not to the rediculous extent you took it to. Reguardless of EVERY SINGLE arguement made in defense of the throwers, it in no way justifies a jig to your boat or a jig to the head. maybe that's just me though.
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Speaking of Snoopy, I'm bringing my daughter's SpongeBob rod down to try for Spanish mack sometime this week or next.
I need to add to the list of conquers on that thing.
Red Snapper, redfish and trout so far. Spanish is next, maybe a pomp if I get lucky.
Now back to the bitching.
And for the record, I've thrown at people off the pier and I'll do it again most likely. It's kind of fun.
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MAN IM GOOD............ I NEW THE SECOND I SAW A BOAT RUN ALL THE WAY FROM THE PASS TO CATCH SPANISH IN FRONT OF THE PIER, I NEW THAT THEY WERE MEMBERS OF THE "PFF"  Then feel free to disrespect yourself and your father by posting that post. Sad for this thread is all I have to say. And look back, you and your family have been defended more times than you have posted on this forum. Ask yourself this question, why are you still here? Just leave the rest of us alone and go off on your merry way. I will still recommend your father's boat in spite of your blatant disrepect of the PFF. Might I remind you that the description was a compliment to the pier fisherman. He knew you could have hit him, and was happy to escape with his skin. What is wrong with people.
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Guy went to the pier to weigh a fish. Called and got "permission". It was good enough for "Jerry", why not the rest of you? Granted, I'd weighed it elsewhere, too much trouble to pull in that close to an object bobbing around. But, I get tired of the "I am GOD...I fish on the pier!!" attitude. I got news for you, not that I would put myself in that position, but, you hit me or mine with a jig....I promise, you ain't walking home on your own power. Period. Ya'll spout alot of threats. You got the easy part done....running that mouth. Got anything else???? And, yes, I am addressing JHOUGE and his fearsome friend, Freespool. Ya'll talk alot of shit. Be carefull, they is always someone willing to put up rather than shut up....
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| It's a sad fact that pier anglers see themselves as virtual owners of the adjeacent water, giving them a free pass to directly threaten someone like that. It's terrible. I would truely love to meet these people and see if they have the same tough guy attitude they do throwing a jig from 100 yards and shouting a bunch of words.
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| ok here I go again....i swear I didn't want to do this...nobody is getting it ...I do not fish for cobia...I saw a fish on the sandbar swimming DIRECTLY AT MY BOAT! Tell me, those of you who have a problem with me catching the fisk: what would you have done? If you saw me, you would know that I had anchor-in-hand, getting ready to go eat and drink the afternoon away. This was a freakin accident...dumb luck...but you act like I was intentionally cutting you off...what a joke. How bout I sit on that bar every day until the cobes quit running? If I was a cobia fisherman, I might just do that...yea, park my ass a half mile up the beach just to piss you off...hmmm...NAH, that is something an idiot would do, and as I said before there are more important things than a fish. As for the kid that I offered 150 bucks to confirm who it was...I didn't need you. Somebody else took me up, and for a lot less, so thanks buddy ! I got em id'ed anyway by the video...now it's a matter of what I think should be done, if anything...after all, no one was hurt (except the pride of those big bad fishermen ). Kenny is right, this is stupid. If you are so hurt by me catching a great fish, one that I would NEVER have a prayer of catching unless by sheer freakin luck, then lemme know where you are gonna be and I will give you the damn meat. Wouold that make it all better? As for me pulling up to the pier: some stated that there is a law against that...I assumed that to be the case...I said so in my original post...I also said that I will gladly pay the ticket if someone wants to complain to the law about it...it was a one-time thing that did not hurt you or your fishing, and I only did it bc I was told it would be okay. Go cry to the pier if you wanna cry about it anymore. I'm done.
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tmass (5/7/2008)
I was on the pier and watched everything. I can assure you that if anyone of the fisherman wanted to hit you they would have, their intent was to let you know that your an idiot.Um i really dont care how good you are with casting accuracy your gonna make mistakes... and when your not trying to hit something guess what the mistake is..... hello. As for my oppinion NICE CATCH!
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